ss1026
03-29 06:45 PM
or is it ignorance? (even if you are responding to someone' post)
Hindus in India have come a long way when it comes to religious tolerance,don't you know that?
Remember we had a Muslim as president(Abdul Kalam) a Sikh for PM(Manmohan Singh) a Italian Roman Catholic as the president of the ruling party(Sonia Gandhi).
If you say so then I think Sonial Gandhi/Rahul Gandhi/(even Priyanka Gandhi would be the front runners in list. Don't forget Sikh riots/Bofors/Oil Scam/the now Missile scam /KGB connection (ref 'State Within State')/ Rahul Gandhi's arrest by FBI and many more...
Here, have fun... enjoy this.( I know if it was written by a Hindu you would come back saying it's biased.But now you can really enjoy it )
To all it's a must read
http://74.125.93.104/search?q=cache:prdjEwwFXSUJ:www.francoisgautier.co m/Written%2520Material/Christian%2520India.doc+ambika+soni+religion&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
On a side note:
Kashmir Hindus were ousted by Muslims. Even during the recent Mumbai attacks perpetrators gave a interview to the news channel saying that it is an attack on the Hindu India.
Still Hindus maintained communal harmony even though Antulay, a muslim ,tried to take advantage of the situation.Still people like you carp about Muslim discrimination.
What is this desperation to keep the almost non-existent (Hindus-hate Muslims, Hindus hate Christians)hatred/discrimination alive even though reality time and again proves the harmony of Hindus.
Even after all this I believe the truth that be it Hindus/Muslims/Christians... we are human beings and equal by the very virtue .
My point is that a person/politician should be judged by the actions/governance and not their lineage. Congress is corrupt like most parties and that discussion is valid (though I would rather see this forum only used for immigration matters...).
I can certainly provide hundreds of links to make this a dividing post but I dont have a propensity for it. My point was to a show a mirror to people who post some ridiculous posts but get away since they seem to be in the majority or atleast seem to be the loudest. Using the measures of US, a lot of what is said in non-immigration matters on this forum would be deemed so racist.
As for Kashmir hindus, I truly wishes Justice is done to them. They are the Children of kashmir. Just like I wish justice is done for every person in India whether the crime be done by extremists or State actors. As for the non-existent discrimination of minorities, I hope you are right but trying to silence people who raise such issues is no way to provide justice. Even to this day, discrimination against blacks is a matter of grave concern in this country. A strength of a society/democracy is the treatment of the weakest/minorities.
Hindus in India have come a long way when it comes to religious tolerance,don't you know that?
Remember we had a Muslim as president(Abdul Kalam) a Sikh for PM(Manmohan Singh) a Italian Roman Catholic as the president of the ruling party(Sonia Gandhi).
If you say so then I think Sonial Gandhi/Rahul Gandhi/(even Priyanka Gandhi would be the front runners in list. Don't forget Sikh riots/Bofors/Oil Scam/the now Missile scam /KGB connection (ref 'State Within State')/ Rahul Gandhi's arrest by FBI and many more...
Here, have fun... enjoy this.( I know if it was written by a Hindu you would come back saying it's biased.But now you can really enjoy it )
To all it's a must read
http://74.125.93.104/search?q=cache:prdjEwwFXSUJ:www.francoisgautier.co m/Written%2520Material/Christian%2520India.doc+ambika+soni+religion&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
On a side note:
Kashmir Hindus were ousted by Muslims. Even during the recent Mumbai attacks perpetrators gave a interview to the news channel saying that it is an attack on the Hindu India.
Still Hindus maintained communal harmony even though Antulay, a muslim ,tried to take advantage of the situation.Still people like you carp about Muslim discrimination.
What is this desperation to keep the almost non-existent (Hindus-hate Muslims, Hindus hate Christians)hatred/discrimination alive even though reality time and again proves the harmony of Hindus.
Even after all this I believe the truth that be it Hindus/Muslims/Christians... we are human beings and equal by the very virtue .
My point is that a person/politician should be judged by the actions/governance and not their lineage. Congress is corrupt like most parties and that discussion is valid (though I would rather see this forum only used for immigration matters...).
I can certainly provide hundreds of links to make this a dividing post but I dont have a propensity for it. My point was to a show a mirror to people who post some ridiculous posts but get away since they seem to be in the majority or atleast seem to be the loudest. Using the measures of US, a lot of what is said in non-immigration matters on this forum would be deemed so racist.
As for Kashmir hindus, I truly wishes Justice is done to them. They are the Children of kashmir. Just like I wish justice is done for every person in India whether the crime be done by extremists or State actors. As for the non-existent discrimination of minorities, I hope you are right but trying to silence people who raise such issues is no way to provide justice. Even to this day, discrimination against blacks is a matter of grave concern in this country. A strength of a society/democracy is the treatment of the weakest/minorities.
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Googler
02-16 12:34 AM
I do not foresee my Jan 2003 EB-2 India PD becoming current any time soon. I'm prepared for a long legal battle. I'd rather do something constructive** that will likely change the process than sit and wait and mope.
Why ? You got the number of EB2 India cases pending that have PD before yours ?
Note that early PD applications of all categories will be freed from the FBI Namecheck blackhole, so the old situation of not-stuck later PDs getting greencards because early PDs were stuck won't happen any more. That is what created the mad, lottery like situation. So there should be slow cutoff date movements in future barring yet another f&#$ up by USCIS.
When a category becomes "Unavailable" it means that the entire annual supply for that category has been used up for that fiscal year (which ends Sept 2008). Given the degree of the EB-3 ROW retrogression, I very very much doubt there will be ANY spillover from ROW to India. At present, DOS plans to move EB-2 India only if EB-1 India has excess visas. The quota for for EB-1 India is 2803 (including dependents) in any fiscal year. So let us consider some scenarios -- say half the EB-1 India are available, so 1401 are given to EB-2 India -- do I think there are 1401 EB-2 India applicants with dependents ahead of me -- average family size of 2.2 means approx 636 applicants? Yep! No doubt about it! Hell I'm sure that there are 2803 EB-2 India applicants ahead of me.
Remember also, that the DOL backlog was FINALLY cleared. All those unlucky people with PDs even earlier than mine were FINALLY able to file their I-485s. They are all in the mix now and deserve to get their greencard before I do.
The earlier situation with the FBI blackhole meant that USCIS could rob Peter (stuck w, early PD) to give greencards to Paul (not stuck w. late PD), hence the wild movements in cutoff dates and the idea that oh, my date will come any day. Now we will really feel the supply constraint, there simply aren't enough greencards to satisfy long retrogressed EB-3 ROW and the permanently oversubscribed countries. Which means that recapture is the ONLY that too partial solution for this mess. Everything we do should be towards achieving that aim.
Why ? You got the number of EB2 India cases pending that have PD before yours ?
Note that early PD applications of all categories will be freed from the FBI Namecheck blackhole, so the old situation of not-stuck later PDs getting greencards because early PDs were stuck won't happen any more. That is what created the mad, lottery like situation. So there should be slow cutoff date movements in future barring yet another f&#$ up by USCIS.
When a category becomes "Unavailable" it means that the entire annual supply for that category has been used up for that fiscal year (which ends Sept 2008). Given the degree of the EB-3 ROW retrogression, I very very much doubt there will be ANY spillover from ROW to India. At present, DOS plans to move EB-2 India only if EB-1 India has excess visas. The quota for for EB-1 India is 2803 (including dependents) in any fiscal year. So let us consider some scenarios -- say half the EB-1 India are available, so 1401 are given to EB-2 India -- do I think there are 1401 EB-2 India applicants with dependents ahead of me -- average family size of 2.2 means approx 636 applicants? Yep! No doubt about it! Hell I'm sure that there are 2803 EB-2 India applicants ahead of me.
Remember also, that the DOL backlog was FINALLY cleared. All those unlucky people with PDs even earlier than mine were FINALLY able to file their I-485s. They are all in the mix now and deserve to get their greencard before I do.
The earlier situation with the FBI blackhole meant that USCIS could rob Peter (stuck w, early PD) to give greencards to Paul (not stuck w. late PD), hence the wild movements in cutoff dates and the idea that oh, my date will come any day. Now we will really feel the supply constraint, there simply aren't enough greencards to satisfy long retrogressed EB-3 ROW and the permanently oversubscribed countries. Which means that recapture is the ONLY that too partial solution for this mess. Everything we do should be towards achieving that aim.
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03-27 03:35 PM
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smuggymba
07-26 07:15 PM
I am not with Amway or Quixtar but I think the folks with Amway/Quixtar are under represented on this thread and it's not fair :-)
Just to add another dimention to this thread I will play the devil's advocate :D
Here I go ...
You guys are all wasting your free time bitching on this thread where as we are spending all our free time growing our business. We will retire early as we would make $xxxx/month for nothing when we turn 40 and dont need to work anymore where as all you guys bitching about Amway / Quixtar will still be working hard at your jobs till 60.
What's your response ?
:D:D:D:D
Anyone can make money in a ponzi scheme..quixtar people just stalk and talk to strangers and ask for their phone number.
Respect other people. Sorry if this offends you.
Just to add another dimention to this thread I will play the devil's advocate :D
Here I go ...
You guys are all wasting your free time bitching on this thread where as we are spending all our free time growing our business. We will retire early as we would make $xxxx/month for nothing when we turn 40 and dont need to work anymore where as all you guys bitching about Amway / Quixtar will still be working hard at your jobs till 60.
What's your response ?
:D:D:D:D
Anyone can make money in a ponzi scheme..quixtar people just stalk and talk to strangers and ask for their phone number.
Respect other people. Sorry if this offends you.
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sac-r-ten
07-21 12:17 PM
Did it for 4 years and quit in 2007... lost 20K and 95% of my friends...
Quixtar is not bad but the people running sub-businesses (such as BWW etc) by pushing tapes and books on you make it HELL
Stay Away unless you are willing to lose a lot to gain a few!!
PEACE
got into it, pulled off 3 weeks later. they refunded my investment w/o any issue. but yes never lost that persons contact who got friendly with me for this and we remain good family friends. so there are exceptions.
Quixtar is not bad but the people running sub-businesses (such as BWW etc) by pushing tapes and books on you make it HELL
Stay Away unless you are willing to lose a lot to gain a few!!
PEACE
got into it, pulled off 3 weeks later. they refunded my investment w/o any issue. but yes never lost that persons contact who got friendly with me for this and we remain good family friends. so there are exceptions.
gc_lover
06-26 02:02 PM
out of context...but do u think dates will be current in august and sept...
My labor in Atlanta....dont see it getting certified B4 August:( :(
Hey...No one can predict anything about Aug and Sept. You just have to wait till you get your LC and then check where dates are and file accordingly. There is nothing you can do about it, so relax and don't worry too much.
If it makes you feel better, then people from 2001/2002/2003 are still still in line. You are lucky at least you have hope that you can file 485 if you get your LC in time.
My labor in Atlanta....dont see it getting certified B4 August:( :(
Hey...No one can predict anything about Aug and Sept. You just have to wait till you get your LC and then check where dates are and file accordingly. There is nothing you can do about it, so relax and don't worry too much.
If it makes you feel better, then people from 2001/2002/2003 are still still in line. You are lucky at least you have hope that you can file 485 if you get your LC in time.
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vjkypally
09-15 08:39 AM
We need to fight against this fraud by outsourcing companies who file for EB1 for their so called managers. IV needs to take this up with USCIS.Year, TOT_LBRS, Certified, LBR_INDIA PD_>_10/1/2001
2000 074048 70204 ????? 0
2001 082139 77921 ????? 0
2002 089168 79784 ????? 7873
2003 095299 62912 ????? 25956
2004 098866 43582 ????? 26569
2005 014253 06133 01350 6133
2006 105960 79782 22298 79782
2007 098753 85112 24573 85112
2008 061997 21092 07198 21092
Total 720483 526522 55419 252517
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum2-retrogression-priority-dates-and-visa-bulletins/23813-perm-labor-data-analysis.html
In 2005 there are a total of 01350 labors certified only for India.
In 2006 there are a total of 22298 labors certified only for India.
The other important thing here to note down is there are many outsourcing companies out there filed/filing GCs for their so called managers in EB1 category.
2000 074048 70204 ????? 0
2001 082139 77921 ????? 0
2002 089168 79784 ????? 7873
2003 095299 62912 ????? 25956
2004 098866 43582 ????? 26569
2005 014253 06133 01350 6133
2006 105960 79782 22298 79782
2007 098753 85112 24573 85112
2008 061997 21092 07198 21092
Total 720483 526522 55419 252517
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum2-retrogression-priority-dates-and-visa-bulletins/23813-perm-labor-data-analysis.html
In 2005 there are a total of 01350 labors certified only for India.
In 2006 there are a total of 22298 labors certified only for India.
The other important thing here to note down is there are many outsourcing companies out there filed/filing GCs for their so called managers in EB1 category.
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dilipcr
06-12 07:03 PM
Grassley bill will not close the door for immigrants but will decrease substanially from 200k(H1+L1) to 80k. But retrogession will go down and those 80k will have less problem in getting green card. You can chose whether to allow unlimited L1 and 125K h1b and 10 to 15 years waiting time or allow 30K L1 + 50K H1b and 3 to 5 years waiting time in green card. Which option will be better for you? If your skills are not good certainly you will not want any restrictions. If your skills are excellent you will survive whatever restrictions they put. They cannot reduce H1b below 65k as that is a part of WTO. So there is no one can block H1b program.
Exactly what I had tried to express, you have succinctly put them in numbers. Thank you
Exactly what I had tried to express, you have succinctly put them in numbers. Thank you
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pathiren
09-28 08:46 PM
Thanks for the response in advance.
The question is:
1) Can a husband (on H1) own a business and sponsor (H1 and greencard) his wife to work for the same business?
2) Can an Indian company start LLC or any other kind of firm and own a business and sponsor someone- more specifically my dad (a major stake holder in Indian company) and this indian company starts some kind of LLC or inc (whichever is feasible) and sponsor my wife for H1 and greencard?
I know its kind of confusing, but would appreciate if you can try and explore this.
Thanks a lot!
The question is:
1) Can a husband (on H1) own a business and sponsor (H1 and greencard) his wife to work for the same business?
2) Can an Indian company start LLC or any other kind of firm and own a business and sponsor someone- more specifically my dad (a major stake holder in Indian company) and this indian company starts some kind of LLC or inc (whichever is feasible) and sponsor my wife for H1 and greencard?
I know its kind of confusing, but would appreciate if you can try and explore this.
Thanks a lot!
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amitjoey
07-03 06:03 PM
clochhead@sfchronicle.com.
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Rohan99
07-26 02:46 PM
I like this thread a lot. It is so relaxing, especially after reading "EB2-EB3 Predictions (Rather Calculations).. " this thread is so intense, and uses 100% of brain capacity
You seem to be enjoying this thread. This should be lighten up - 2 :)
You seem to be enjoying this thread. This should be lighten up - 2 :)
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yabadaba
07-04 08:51 AM
i sent emails all three nightly news shows at nbc, abc and cbs
i also sent an email to anna at sepiamutiny
i also sent an email to anna at sepiamutiny
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kshitijnt
04-01 07:59 PM
Some time back when I asked my chinese colleagues to join IV they commented that immigrationvoice.org is an "indian" immigration forum...
No wonder they felt that way.
So if stop discussing this thread, will they join us?
No wonder they felt that way.
So if stop discussing this thread, will they join us?
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sachug22
09-15 06:19 PM
Cutoff for China will never advance India dates for spill overs.
Exactly, there are more EB application from India and most of them are older PD, so with no rule, all it means is that India will get bigger share.
Exactly, there are more EB application from India and most of them are older PD, so with no rule, all it means is that India will get bigger share.
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vdlrao
09-15 03:19 PM
Vdlrao,
You are admired a lot for bringing in hope for lot of people with your EB2 prediction thread, can you jump in and throw some numbers here please if you think the numbers quoted are out of way, i understand this is time consuming but since you already did your homework last time around it should take you few minutes to come up with some realistic numbers.
Hi ocpmachine,
I dont know the exact Eb2 India labors certified for the given years. But initially I assumed that Eb2 India would be almost current or in the worst case it would cross 2006 because of the spill over. Because I assumed and hoped very high on the spill over numbers. But in reality the spill overs also didnt make a big impact in the EB2 India movement. See the previous visa bulletins you could find that Eb2 is is in the middle of 2004 in the year of 2005 itself. Since 2005 to 2007 its there in 2004 many times.
But in 2008 and 2009 EB2 India got the maximum share of the spill over visas. But still the dates are in the first month of 2005. So hardly EB2 India moved forward about 6 months to 9 months in the duration of 2008 and 2009 with the help of spill overs. That too in this bad economy where there would be comparatively less labors applied than the previous years.
So I am expecting a steady and consistent forward movement of EB2 India but not a quick jumps of couple of years in single bulletin.
I hope it makes clear to everybody. And all we need is an EB immigration reform.
You are admired a lot for bringing in hope for lot of people with your EB2 prediction thread, can you jump in and throw some numbers here please if you think the numbers quoted are out of way, i understand this is time consuming but since you already did your homework last time around it should take you few minutes to come up with some realistic numbers.
Hi ocpmachine,
I dont know the exact Eb2 India labors certified for the given years. But initially I assumed that Eb2 India would be almost current or in the worst case it would cross 2006 because of the spill over. Because I assumed and hoped very high on the spill over numbers. But in reality the spill overs also didnt make a big impact in the EB2 India movement. See the previous visa bulletins you could find that Eb2 is is in the middle of 2004 in the year of 2005 itself. Since 2005 to 2007 its there in 2004 many times.
But in 2008 and 2009 EB2 India got the maximum share of the spill over visas. But still the dates are in the first month of 2005. So hardly EB2 India moved forward about 6 months to 9 months in the duration of 2008 and 2009 with the help of spill overs. That too in this bad economy where there would be comparatively less labors applied than the previous years.
So I am expecting a steady and consistent forward movement of EB2 India but not a quick jumps of couple of years in single bulletin.
I hope it makes clear to everybody. And all we need is an EB immigration reform.
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amitga
02-15 06:08 PM
What happend when a law contradicts another law. There is a law which says slavery in unlawful and 'employment at will' is the right of every person on US Soil.
Now another law is that to limit the number of visa which is causing the voilation of above mentioed law. USCIS is follwing the law of visa numbers. In the process the other laws are being voilated. Somebody should be liable for that.
Now another law is that to limit the number of visa which is causing the voilation of above mentioed law. USCIS is follwing the law of visa numbers. In the process the other laws are being voilated. Somebody should be liable for that.
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Legal_Guy_HiTech_Slave
09-22 06:11 PM
Hello Friends,
I am going through a wierd situation with my GC process. Not that the EB3 PD is retrogressed but a different one. Silly it sounds. Please help me in making a right decision. Thank you in advance for your suggestions.
EB3 category.
PD : April 15,2003.
Labor: approved.
I-140: approved.
I-485: Only registered the application,FP done. Not applied for EAD,AP and others as I was not married at the "All gates open time in 2007"
My Wierd Situation / Issue: I was not married at the time when all categories were current in Jul/Aug 2007 and so I had only applied for myself for the application to register for 485 process (Main application), submitted my medicals, Submitted my DOB certificates and completed the 485 adjustment of status registration. I got married at the end of 2007 and got my all Finger Prints completed in December 2007. Now my wife is here on H4 and dont know if I should keep continue my 485 just to keep the file active or wait untill my PD is current (NO HOPES may be in my next life as it is EB3) and apply along with my wife. PLEASE help me with your valuable suggestions. I just want to be safe because I have been working here for 10 years on H1B visa and tired of this immigration rules and litigations.
I am going through a wierd situation with my GC process. Not that the EB3 PD is retrogressed but a different one. Silly it sounds. Please help me in making a right decision. Thank you in advance for your suggestions.
EB3 category.
PD : April 15,2003.
Labor: approved.
I-140: approved.
I-485: Only registered the application,FP done. Not applied for EAD,AP and others as I was not married at the "All gates open time in 2007"
My Wierd Situation / Issue: I was not married at the time when all categories were current in Jul/Aug 2007 and so I had only applied for myself for the application to register for 485 process (Main application), submitted my medicals, Submitted my DOB certificates and completed the 485 adjustment of status registration. I got married at the end of 2007 and got my all Finger Prints completed in December 2007. Now my wife is here on H4 and dont know if I should keep continue my 485 just to keep the file active or wait untill my PD is current (NO HOPES may be in my next life as it is EB3) and apply along with my wife. PLEASE help me with your valuable suggestions. I just want to be safe because I have been working here for 10 years on H1B visa and tired of this immigration rules and litigations.
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ItIsNotFunny
06-05 02:56 PM
Recently I was on a flight from Delhi to Mumbai and the guy next to me was a former RBI employee. I asked him as to why the Indian govt. is not doing anything about the billions of USD left behind by Indians returning to India in the form of SSA and Medicare taxes, to which he replied that the obstacle to a treaty as stated by the US govt. is that India does not have a system comparable to Soc. Security and Medicare for distribution of money to it's retirees.
Such a pact was apparently considered in 2006, but went nowhere due to disagreement about how the Indian govt. will track money distribution and administer the program.
There is already a thread working on Government of India to consolidate Pension Fund with Social Security. America already has this type of treaties with few european countries. But looking at the bereaucracy now, this may take next 10-15 years.
Such a pact was apparently considered in 2006, but went nowhere due to disagreement about how the Indian govt. will track money distribution and administer the program.
There is already a thread working on Government of India to consolidate Pension Fund with Social Security. America already has this type of treaties with few european countries. But looking at the bereaucracy now, this may take next 10-15 years.
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Rb_newsletter
01-15 09:40 PM
1. About 100,000 or may be many times that number (I do not know) of L1 workers are brought to work to the USA? Do they realize that there is NO quota limit for L1?
2. How the L1A visa is misused in the guise of the so called "International transfer" to file for GC under EB1 category?
3 That many of the Indian / foreign firms no longer prefer to sendi their employees on H1 as they can send plane loads of L1 without any hitch?
I just wanted to share the info that I know and I am not in L1.
They started cracking down L1s long before. Denials of L1 started atleast a year before. Nowadays some companies don't even apply for L1 extension from onsite. Because they know it will be denied. They apply extensions only after candidate goes back to home country.
But let us not hate each other among ourselves between L1, H1, F1 etc. At the end anyone is applying for L1/H1/F1 because there is a provision and it is completely legal.
2. How the L1A visa is misused in the guise of the so called "International transfer" to file for GC under EB1 category?
3 That many of the Indian / foreign firms no longer prefer to sendi their employees on H1 as they can send plane loads of L1 without any hitch?
I just wanted to share the info that I know and I am not in L1.
They started cracking down L1s long before. Denials of L1 started atleast a year before. Nowadays some companies don't even apply for L1 extension from onsite. Because they know it will be denied. They apply extensions only after candidate goes back to home country.
But let us not hate each other among ourselves between L1, H1, F1 etc. At the end anyone is applying for L1/H1/F1 because there is a provision and it is completely legal.
EndlessWait
07-10 11:36 AM
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BharatPremi
12-13 05:52 PM
Note that it would certainly not benefit the other 60%+ from countries other than India that are also stuck in various steps (EB3, name check). So, unless you want IV to stand for IndiaVoice, you should concentrate your admirable effort on increasing the overall quota (with increased per-country quota), excluding dependents, etc.
Do not worry about that. IV has everything in the agenda what you mentioned.This thread is about 'Constitutionality argument against per-country ceilings'.Nobody here is saying to promote the fight against "Per country ceiling" ONLY.
Do not worry about that. IV has everything in the agenda what you mentioned.This thread is about 'Constitutionality argument against per-country ceilings'.Nobody here is saying to promote the fight against "Per country ceiling" ONLY.
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